I am glad I won't be at my desk next week. My 11 year old is about 5 feet and 95 pounds hits his driver 180-200. That's got to be one of the worst sources to use. The average 3 wood goes just under 190 yards and the average 7 iron flies 133 yards. Well, it’s not over over, it’s just tournaments are cancelled/postponed, and golf courses are closing so I won’t get to caddy for a while. × Please add you comments in this thread. Hey. While there are only 2 players averaging over 280 there are 21 with a 270 plus average and 67 that are 260 and above. A driver carry distance of 188 is going to be right around a 75 mph swing speed. Display as a link instead, × His sister is 8 (9 in SEP) and about 55"/80 lbs, and topped out at 67 MPH with a 41" F9 Speedback (raised to 14*) she's choked up on a little bit....carries up to 125 with that club. It was funny to watch him carry that oversized driver in that kid’s bag. Driving distance ranges for junior golfers Driving distance ranges for junior golfers. Let's get things going on the Jr Golf Forum. By This has been done primarily in the gym with strength training. A simple DIY effort should only cost a few hundred bucks in material. The average distance for a one iron is around 215 yards for an average golfer. The greatest distance factors are mechanics and club head speed. A young couple had their two boys hitting balls, and at least one of the parents was a local pro. Averages from DCP? I do think the biggest gains have just been in the gym where he has seen a 50% increase in ability over the last year. Drivers are designed to maximize the ball's carry distance, so a driver's loft angle ranges from 8 to 13 degrees, depending on the specific brand or model of driver. Sounds like your son hits a ton! My son turns 13 next week and not one drive from the 14-15 year old group was as long as my sons drives in his local qualifier. He’s never been on a launch monitor but his longest drive as a 7 year old in DCP qualifying was 160 and I’ve lasered him at 180 yards on our home course. Here's an interesting fact: While PGA Tour pros hit their drives anywhere from 280 yards to 320 yards on average, and LPGA Tour pros hit their drives from 230 to 270 yards on average, most recreational golfers, according to Golf Digest, average somewhere around 195-205 yards with their drivers. My kid is being taught speed and distance. Maybe its closer in other age groups but using DCP for distances in my opinion is a bad source. Please add you comments in this thread. Driving distance ranges for junior golfers, 2021 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion, 2021 FARMERS WITB & Equipment Photos- Links and comments, 2021 American Express WITB & Equipment Photos- Links and comments, Kevin Na WITB: 2021 Sony Open Winner (pics and specs). Two of the longest kids in the 11-12's were hitting driver anywhere between 250-270 but also missing fairways a lot and guess what? Because a woman has less upper body power than a man, her swing speeds tend to be lower. Driving Distance. My 9 year old is a little dude. When you get to the irons they are kind of all over the place. Distance is hard to learn, but so is a good iron game. The smaller kids will probably catch up and maybe surpass once the size differential shrinks. Titleist TSi4 driver head, TSi2/TSi3 hybrids, Odyssey 2-Ball Ten putters and Apex hybrids, SIM Max 9.0 Head, Ventus Blue 6X, T20 wedge, MELT THE SNOW PUTTER SALEODYSSEY Rossie, PING Darby, TaylorMade Spider Mini, ODYSSEY Jailbird Mini. The more my son plays in tournaments with older kids, I wonder at what point distance is a wash if a kid cant hit a wedge and doesn't have feel. We are back on the ground at the 2021 Farmers PGA Tour event. So, even though he swings very fast now, as a kid he never got more than 150-200 yards or so? Invitation is open when you want to come play VCC. CTgolf, February 11, 2018 in Juniors/College Golf Talk, Point being, there's no reason for concern if your kid doesn't hit it as long as other bigger kids, and there's no reason to be overly optimistic if your bigger kid does; size becomes much less of an issue after they all mature. For these average male golfers, Trackman® statistics report the average club head speed at this 14-15-handicap level is about 93.4 mph…yielding an average total distance of 214 yards per drive. Here’s a breakdown of the averages I found in five-year increments, along with a calculation of their estimated average swing speeds based on the average Tour players driving distance efficiency being about 2.57 yard/mph. Not sure it is will have the desired impact; I assume he will hit the ball further just due to natural growth and doubt he reaches elite level. in ability to teach a faster swing and hitting the ball further. Driving distance ranges for junior golfers, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nQ9FCrwWVH4njKRvegenM7t-mJfadQoq2yERZB64OI4/edit#gid=1258197418, 2021 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion, 2021 FARMERS WITB & Equipment Photos- Links and comments, 2021 American Express WITB & Equipment Photos- Links and comments, Kevin Na WITB: 2021 Sony Open Winner (pics and specs). The funniest part is my kid’s clubs are all below A0 ? He'll be seven in May, but he's 70 lbs and now swinging 63 MPH... carries up to 110. The boredom is taking it's toll. Paste as plain text instead, × For 13 years — from 1994 until 2006 — the average … Tiger Car Accident. Average Driving Distance By Age in 2019: 10-19: 234.2 yards 20-29: 239.7 yards 30-39: 233.7 yards 40-49: 225.9 yards 50-59: 215.4 yards 60-69: 204.5 yards 70+: 190.4 yards Tiger crashes his car - currently in surgery? It could also just be the ball according to the USGA. Using data taken directly from the USGA Distance Insight Report, Stagner calculated the driving distance for male amateur golfers in the following handicap ranges: Less than 6, 6-12, 13-20 and 21+, with the average yardage of all golfers coming in … COVID-19 sucks. In 2019, driving distance was the following by age group: 10-19: 234.2 yards 20-29: 239.7 yards 30-39: 233.7 yards 40-49: 225.9 yards 50 … Print. This is a 45% decrease in driver distance from 270 yards on average on the LPGA Tour to the amateur female golfers driving average. Just watched a short video of the French phenom from DCP last year, and watching him carry his drives 170 (completely under control) as an eight-year-old is impressive. until they get a certain length most kids clubs don't even measure SW that's why most use overall weight as a better judgement for kids clubs. × We got 6,300, 6,700 and 7,100 yard tees. For this chart we use both the score itself and handicap differential. Remember, this is … At its core, the median driving distance is 219.55 yards. Do you happen to know your carry distance, swing speed, etc? Therefore, next time you are watching golf on the TV you shouldn’t feel too downbeat when you see the distance that people are driving the ball. Using data taken directly from the USGA Distance Insight Report, Stagner calculated the driving distance for male amateur golfers in the following handicap ranges: Less than 6, 6-12, 13-20 and 21+. And let’s say these are your average “max” distances for each: Before you spend a few hundred bucks to purchase your next driver, be sure to carefully review all of the variables involved with your club selection – not just loft. Two of the longest kids in the 11-12's were hitting d, Going back through this thread is a treat. witch may sound crazy but my average is 312 yards. More Distance for Golfers Over 50 Golf power and distance are one of the primary limitations for senior golfers and golfers over 50. It looks like there have been many people looking to build the perfect golfer in that kid for about five years or so. It is amazing how 20-30 yds longer from the tee box can change the hole for anyone let alone kids where 30yd represent 3-4 club difference. He’s longer than all his friends and competitors in local tournaments but his driver is much longer so it’s not really apples to apples. If you used more prestigious/difficult tournaments that would just be an average for more elite players, not junior golfers in general. This varies so much based on physical maturity. His coach who is also, Point being, there's no reason for concern if your kid doesn't hit it as long as other bigger kids, and there's no reason to be overly optimistic if your bigger kid does; size becomes much less of an. These drives are measured on two holes per round. But rather than a slow linear creep over that time span, there have been some notable milestones where distance has sprung up more suddenly. So there is no one right answer. That 204 yard drive from the kid in the 7-9 range is very impressive. ***All responses Moderated***, 2021 WGC Workday Championship @ The Concession - Discussion, 2021 Ping putters - 2021 WGC Workday Championship. During the last week, I scoped his drives on the same 4 holes and the average was 208. Many senior golfers play with driver shafts that are too stiff for their needs, and they lose distance as a result. … It seems like the USKG lengths are a tad short--at least for my kids.   Your link has been automatically embedded. By using proper clubs, increasing your upper body and core strength and improving posture, you can maximize the distance of your hits. By: Luke Kerr-Dineen December 15, 2020 Driving distance seems to be all what everybody talks about nowadays. Tournament fields aren’t set up by physical maturity. Not all advice is good and often is bad.   Pasted as rich text. My 53" son is swinging his sister's hand-me down 54" UL driver with no problems and without choking up. @iteachgolf and you are correct. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 9, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 2, easyyy posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 27, easyyy posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 19, easyyy posted a topic in What's In The Bag Photo Edition, January 18. Would have thought you guys have several more years together at least. Woods, ranging from a 2-wood to a 5-wood are also used for distance, but their loft angle is slightly greater than a driver.This angle provides the golfer with distance, with a little more loft than a driver. CTgolf, February 11, 2018 in Juniors/College Golf Talk, A non conforming driver would yield maybe a 5-10 yard difference for a 10-12 year old. The little one would pulverize ever third ball or so, but the driver was just to long and heavy for him to repeat it. My kid is being taught speed and distance. The median driving distance is 219.55 yards, while the average for a three-wood is 186.89 yards, a seven iron 133.48 yards and pitching wedge 73.97 yards. Think they are quite close to what I have seen over the last few years as my now 10 yr old has moved from lower end of the pack to the higher end. Now that same driver barely stands past his belt, but it was hilarious to watch that tiny kid swinging a full sized driver. A part of me thinks the course was just too short for these guys at 5,700 yards. × Clear editor. Upload or insert images from URL. Here are links to all the galleries: We are back on the ground at the American Express PGA event. You can post now and register later. I do hope you are not right about your second point i.e.   Your previous content has been restored. So he’s one that physically matured a little earlier than his peers. He intermittently does the Dr. House throwing protocol and Super Speed training systems. Some high school data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nQ9FCrwWVH4njKRvegenM7t-mJfadQoq2yERZB64OI4/edit#gid=1258197418, Some idea of averages here:http://www.drivechipandputt.com/finals/leaderboard, Sun Mountain 4.5 LS 14-way / Cobra F9 HZRDUS Black 65 6.5 / Srixon Z F85 PX HZRDUS Black 75 6.5 / TM UDI 2i PX HZRDUS Smoke Black 100 6.5 / Srixon Z965 TT DG TI X100 / Cleveland RTX-4 50,54,60 TT DG TI S400 / TM Spider Tour Red. How many parents have actively worked on swing speeds and distance? There's definitely something more important that I should be doing. Agree on the boredom. There’s literally only two factors, age and sex. can we tee it up from the fairway. We are blessed to have a Top Golf-like place here my part of FL called "Big Shots", which has each bay outfitted with Flightscope. Check out the full results in the table below. For example, if you are 10-16 years old and want to see how fast the college kids you will be playing against will be swinging, take a look at the 17-30 age group. I have 2 boys. @iteachgolf and you are correct. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. We’re practicing in the garage now, and the flightscope I bought is finally getting some good use. Tiger crashes his car - currently in surgery? I would think a distance to size ratio is a better measure of swing efficiency and potential for young kids. Thinking about building a hitting bay since I already have the most expensive parts (flightscope and projector). This graph shows the performance of golfers by age. You may have noticed before that there is often more variance in the average golf club distances of female players compared to male players. Tiger Car Accident. Their kids were 5 and 8, both swings were polished for their age... and both kids had longer drivers. At 10 my son was at most 4’10” and even the kids driver was far too long for him, but he wanted to use a new full length TM burner driver. Turns out the average yardage of all golfers is – statistically at least – 217 yards. Since then, the average driving distance has steadily increased, rocketing upwards in the ‘90s and early 2000s. But my son happens to be large for his age at 5’10 and 150 pounds. @iteachgolf and you are correct. HH - really good job on the averages. If I break down the numbers in 10-year increments to decades, here’s what I found. Average driving distance across all handicaps was 200 yards … Trying to avoid the 'becoming a Netflix" slug, but that train is fast approaching the station. The 3W and 4H fall right in line with about a 75mph driver swing speed as well. There's definitely something more important that I should be doing. ***All responses Moderated***, 2021 WGC Workday Championship @ The Concession - Discussion, 2021 Ping putters - 2021 WGC Workday Championship. Weighs like 55 pounds and hits driver 140-160. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 9, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 2, easyyy posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 27, easyyy posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 19, easyyy posted a topic in What's In The Bag Photo Edition, January 18. It looks like he's swinging easier (slower) but it's going much further. As the distance debate continues to rumble on in the men’s professional game, golf statistician Lou Stagner has broken down the dispersion of each drive at this year’s Masters tournament. I was wondering what's the average distance a … The report also shares this data in the chart below illustrating changes in amateur distances for male golfers from 1996-2019. Hahaha. The Average PGA Drive. His average carry last year at this time was 235. Point being, there's no reason for concern if your kid doesn't hit it as long as other bigger kids, and there's no reason to be overly optimistic if your bigger kid does; size becomes much less of an issue after they all mature. Getting him on a lunch monitor would be fun, I bet. Two of the longest kids in the 11-12's were hitting d, Going back through this thread is a treat. Is that an anomaly or are other kids in that age range able to crack 200. You can post now and register later. He's probably longer than average for his age, but I'm hoping he can start eating more to get another 10 or so yards by the time he turns 11 in March. The Math to Back Up This Chipping Distance Control Tip. Let’s say you have a 52 degree wedge, 56 degree wedge, and 60 degree wedge in your golf bag. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. While there are charts that list the average distance for each golf club for women, the numbers are only averages and don’t reflect how far individuals actually hit the ball. Whilst the average driving distance for all golfers using Game Golf is just under 220 yards. 14 mph gain in club head speed from last year to this. 14 mph gain in club head speed from last year to this. He doesn’t choke up on it either but he swings it so well that neither our head pro (and Jr League coach) or his swing teacher have asked him to change. Just bought a shaft puller and swing weight scale. How much should average golfers care about distance? If so, let do this. My 9 year old is a little dude. If you are a junior golfer, the hope is that this data allows you to see where you stand compared to others in your age range and the older golfers at the next level. Other club distances of note: the median 3-wood goes 186.89 yards, 7-iron clocks in at 133.48 yards and … Back on the first page of this thread @iteachgolf mentions efficiency. Distance matters a lot at the younger ages, especially before they are playing full length courses (min 6500+ for boys, 5800+ for girls). Jordan Golf ADG 12 - Gunsmoke/Metallic Gold-Black - BRAND NEW NEVER WORN! That makes the average male amateur driving efficiency to be 2.29 yards per mph of club head speed. Why are your caddy days over? His coach who is also a TPI trainer believes he will gain another 15 mph over the next year which will put him at 120 mph club head speed at 16 years old. The average female golfer's swing speed is 65 mph, wrote Tom Wishon in "Ten Things You Thought You Knew About Golf Clubs." Leezer touched on something that I saw at the range up in Tallahassee last month. Paste as plain text instead, × The average number of yards per drive for all drives where the distance was measured by a laser. Distance matters a lot at the younger ages, especially before they are playing full length courses (min 6500+ for boys, 5800+ for girls). The girl who won the driving part hit drives of almost 190 in girls 7-9 to say that is crazy long for that age is an understatement but she was also 10 a week later. Plus you are talking about Augusta national master's conditions as well. Now, he’s well over 120mph with all his boxing and MMA training. Jordan Golf ADG 12 - Gunsmoke/Metallic Gold-Black - BRAND NEW NEVER WORN! My 8 year old son is only 51” tall but he’s been using his older sister’s Ping G812 for over a year. Added to the mix is that not all golf … If you used more prestigious/difficult tournaments that would just be an average for more elite players, not junior golfers in general. By high school he was driving about 200 and played varsity.   Pasted as rich text. There are many factors that influence distance, including your physical characteristics and conditions on the course. Driver length should be about from the floor to the child's sternum. Since the dawn of the driving distance stat in 1980, professional golfers have gained about 40 yards off the tee. I would even go so far as to say, if a kid is much bigger/stronger than others of same age and hits it much farther, but isn't beating everyone easily on those shorter setups, then should probably temper future expectations. Below we complete a full run down of the average golf iron distances across all of the irons that you may find in a golf bag. By They aren’t extra long because of conditions either. This is mainly because more experienced female players tend to hit shots much longer than inexperienced golfers or female players who swing the golf club slower.Whereas there is less of a discrepancy between male … Data expert Stagner found that the distance range which saw the highest percentage of drives at the 2020 Masters was in the 280-299 yard category. One Iron Information. I have 2 boys. It goes up to the top of his sternum.   Your link has been automatically embedded. His coach who is also, Point being, there's no reason for concern if your kid doesn't hit it as long as other bigger kids, and there's no reason to be overly optimistic if your bigger kid does; size becomes much less of an. She's using UL 60" irons, he's using Flynn VT Advantage irons I found on clearance that are measured to fit him until he reaches her current size (this fall?). Even so, I don’t think he broke 250 too often, but by senior year his total distance was around 280 to 300 yards with a 110mph average swing. Distance is hard to come by when you weight under 70 lbs. Season Time Period. Weighs like 55 pounds and hits driver 140-160. We have spent a fair bit of time this off-season working on speed and flexibility. My kid is being taught speed and distance. So, I bought it for him. Plus you have to consider their age cutoff. My son-10 yrs has finally started to consistently break into the 200 yard mark. […]   Your previous content has been restored. You can see both drives and can see the numbers vary based on the kids size in the photo (assuming it’s even remotely recent photo).   You cannot paste images directly. The average number of yards per measured drive. I think the centripetal force was equal to his total weight. I just noticed this thread was stated by CT. edit: for those of you that don’t know CT he’s not dead, just banned. Titleist TSi4 driver head, TSi2/TSi3 hybrids, Odyssey 2-Ball Ten putters and Apex hybrids, SIM Max 9.0 Head, Ventus Blue 6X, T20 wedge, MELT THE SNOW PUTTER SALEODYSSEY Rossie, PING Darby, TaylorMade Spider Mini, ODYSSEY Jailbird Mini. The average driving distance among golfers in the PGA varies from event to event and from year to year, but typically stays within a few yards of the same number. That might be more relevant since there are players on here that all play in different climates on all different types of courses. One Iron Distance. Display as a link instead, × Very cool to hear. Different question. I'm 15 and by the time golf try-outs will be i'll be 16. He is definitely not elite but i see the the difference between elite and good. The more my son plays in tournaments with older kids, I wonder at what point distance is a wash if a kid cant hit a wedge and doesn't have feel. And that’s on the high end, The more my son plays in tournaments with older kids, I wonder at what point distance is a wash if a kid cant hit a wedge and doesn't have feel. They hit TWO drives and they only take the top one. Good players have a wider range for each club and hit fewer poor shots; they may not hit all that many more good shots. Are most “long” juniors using drivers in the length recommended by US Kids? my name is william morris and i have been playing golf for 2 years now i'm 16 years old and i hit my farthest drive which was 357 yards. For the ambitious, you can get a print-out of your entire practice session sent to your email account. Bump. The older one, a small-ish lefty, had a driver that fit him a little better and he was putting it out to 150 consistently. Going back through this thread is a treat. × Clear editor. The Average Club Distance for Women in Golf. Distance affects so much of the game. You'll see lots of kids (parent's) chasing distance with drivers that go up to a kid's shoulders which is just a bad idea for a number of reasons. To help you make sense of this important chipping tip like I did when I first read it, you need to see some number examples. Golfers reach their peak power in their 20s based on this data, with the average total drive (carry and roll) coming in just shy of 240 yards. My son has always been long but gained a bunch of yardage through developing a more efficient swing. Upload or insert images from URL. Shorter drives lead to longer approach shots, longer approach shots lead to fewer greens hit, which leads to higher scores and a lot less fun. Then those with handicaps between 6 and 12 average 223 yards off the tee, with the better players at a 6 handicap or less averaging 245 yards off the tee. My 11 year old is about 5 feet and 95 pounds hits his driver 180-200. His average carry now is 280. Current driving distance has taken a huge nosedive... only going about 7 feet. True, as I recall when my son was 10 he drove something like 150 total. Average Scoring By Age. They finished T16 and T18 out of 34 players.   You cannot paste images directly. I would even go so far as to say, if a kid is much bigger/stronger than others of same age and hits it much farther, but isn't beating everyone easily on those shorter setups, then should probably temper future expectations. The score is a good metric, and one that all golfers understand, but it doesn’t take into consideration which tees were used by the golfer. Here are links to all the galleries: We are back on the ground at the American Express PGA event. We are back on the ground at the 2021 Farmers PGA Tour event. The LPGA average driving distance leaderboard shows the top 162 players and at position 162, Louise Ridderstrom still has a respectable average of 240 yards. 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